Minutes November 3, 1999

WCRC Meeting


Meeting held in the Creede Town Hall
Called to order by Chairman Zeke Ward at 1:06 PM

Those Attending:

Name                                             Affiliation                                          E-Mail

John Howard
Glen Miller
Zeke Ward
Sandra Wright
Larry Bussey
Chuck Barnes
Philip Bethve
Steve Russell
Diana Hammer
Rod Clark
Raida Knapp
Randy Burgess
Bonnie Wardell
Rex Sheppard
Clark Dierks
Bobby Manning
Ron Askew
Wayne & Donna Peck
Vince Spero

Resident
Resident
Resident
Resident
Trout Unlimited
Resident
Resident
NRCS
EPA
NRCS
NRCS
Forest Service
Resident
Resident
SLV Trout Unlimited
Wasson Ranch.
S.F.C.R.P.G.
Residents
Forest Service

jhoward375@aol.com
miller@amigo.net
redmtn@fone.net
cityofcreede@amigo.net
Box 503 Alamosa 81101
chwagon@amigo.net
pbethve@usgs.gov
russell@amigo.net
hammer.diana@epa.gov
rodney.clark@co.usda.gov
rpaul-kne@co.usda.gov
rburgess/r2,riogrande.fs.fed.us
P.O. Box 223 Creede 81130
Box 146 Creede 81130
2705 Park Ave. Alamosa  81101
Box 1697 boulder  80306
Box 4091 Evergreen  80437
elkcreek@fone.net
vspero/r2,riogrande.fs.fed.us


Chairman's Report

Zeke spoke of the potluck dinner. We need to disseminate information to the public, have a sign in sheet, and have a questionnaire to learn more about what the public thinks about various committee activities. We need to come up with a list of questions. Zeke spoke of an earlier survey whereby it was determined that we wished to proceed as a stakeholders group and not as a superfund site.

Glen asked if an appropriate question would be if it is important to people that we save the taxpayers money by doing things more efficiently than traditional superfund programs. Zeke voiced that it is a difficult question that requires a bunch of explanation. It has been previously determined by the committee that... efficient reclamation activities are a top priority, turning Willow Creek into a first class fishery at any cost is not necessarily a top priority, but protecting the Rio Grande from fish kills is a priority. Rex Sheppard advised that we ask questions in a way that is educational. Steve Russell advised that we leave some room for comment. Zeke advised that Glen put together a draft of a half a dozen questions tied to our existing goals.

Discussion of Train Issues.

Ron Askew speaks... The State of Colorado has declared it is legal owner of section 36? and section 16 in Mineral County. Don Shank has been notified that this property is not necessarily open for them to have a right-a-way through. Ron said that they have notified ??? that they have agreed to buy the entire line for the price Don agreed to pay and donate all, from mile marker 318 up to the town of Creede +/- 440 yards to the WCRC, the town of Creede or Mineral County so their group won’t have to get involved in any EPA pollution issues. They are also contemplating donating other land to the Forest Service, State Parks, or Colorado Dept. of Wildlife.

Zeke spoke that it has been pointed out in other meetings that the land under discussion as well as the Hecla land go to public use and not to commercial development.

Ron Askew’s group, the WCRC, and the Town of Creede seem to agree on all issues and the pieces involving a resolution to the train issue are rapidly falling into place.

Zeke says he is working in three different ways to get one very important question answered and the question is... Could the town of Creede come under any CIRCLA liability by obtaining the land in question?

Diana Hammer of the EPA says that she believes there is some type of legal protection for local governments when it comes to CIRCLA issues. She offered to have someone from the EPA legal office come and teach a CIRCLA liability type of 101 course. Chuck Barnes spoke of the Hecla land donation and says that what is holding up this donation is working with the EPA to determine their liability.
Hecla never caused any pollution but are the third owner away from a company that did. Chuck  voiced that the Hecla donation should go through if the EPA’s requirements are livable.

Zeke spoke of all the news regarding the train issue as being good. The committee gave a round of applause.

Coordinator's Report

A) Glen got a letter from Steve Vandiver concerning the gaging station. They are willing to keep it going but don’t have the money to keep a permanent record. Mr. Vandiver advised that Perry Alspaugh work with others of the committee and do this ourselves. Steve Russell offered to provide help from his department. He will research into what is necessary.

B) The museum maps have been photocopied. Phil Bethve said he has access to other maps that we could use. Zeke advised that we write a thank-you letter to Bruce Stover for getting the maps photocopied and for all the other work he has done for the committee. Chuck Barnes made a motion that we send a letter. Numerous people seconded and all were in favor.

As soon as we get the raw data from our water sampling event, we will make a database. Barb Horn acquired a copy of Dbase for us. It is hoped that Rob Benson of Adams State will advise us in this matter. It is also hoped that Dr. Novotney of Adams State will become more involved in the committee.

Glen pointed out the importance when it comes to obtaining grant funding, is the overall reputation of the committee for enthusiasm and competence. It seems that we have an excellent reputation and it is growing. Zeke said that we must also make sure to be fiscally responsible at all times.

C) There is a watershed group Coordinator’s meeting in Frisco on the 17th. Chuck Barnes moved that the committee pay for Glen to go to this meeting. Many seconded and all were in favor. Diana spoke of an EPA sponsored watershed group meeting in the spring that Glen should also attend.

D) Glen spoke of the importance of everyone keeping track of their "in kind" donations. This is all going to be posted on the Web.
MFG has nearly gone through the $108,700 of their contract with the WCRC. Glen advised that we, in the future, work in accordance with CDPHE guidelines and make all contracted work be written down into specific tasks, with a specific deliverable product, at an exact price, to be accomplished by an exact time. In this way the committee will have more control over the situation and will be in a position to be more fiscally responsible.
Glen pointed out that MFG has done a lot of "in kind" work for free and that Frank Sanders came to the meeting at Adams State last Saturday at no charge to the committee.

Zeke spoke of the fact that things have been somewhat in a rush and we have been playing catch up, but that we are catching up. The original goal of the Committee was to keep this area from becoming a superfund site and from that point we have slowly developed a picture of what we want Willow Creek to look like. We have been progressing in layers and we now need to detail everything into specific manageable and efficient tasks.

The committee voiced concerns about hiring local contractors as much as possible for work, in particular at the Commodore, even and maybe especially if it involves low tech, efficient, and inexpensive equipment and methods.

E) Zeke spoke of our developing a lab of our own for quick sample analysis. JB was not there to comment, but he is heading this project. The lab is to be housed at the fish hatchery.

TAC Committee Solomon Wetland Report by John Howard

John spoke of the meeting at Adams State with himself, Bob Kirkham, Frank Sanders, Frank Novotney, Rob Benson, and Glen Miller. The meeting established what data we have and where it is at and what we can do to get it all together so everyone can view it. A tentative meeting schedule over the winter for the TAC committee regarding the wetlands was established. Frank Sanders went over an idea that he has for a potential reclamation project.

Diana Hammer on behalf of the EPA publically acknowledged and thanked the Colorado Department of Wildlife for stepping up and handling the samples when it turned out that the EPA lab could not help.

Zeke pointed out that a letter of thanks and support to the DOW is in the works.

Meeting adjourned shortly before 2:30 PM

Minutes submitted by: Approved and accepted:

_________________________               __________________________
Glen Miller                                                 Zeke Ward
Project Watershed Coordinator                                      Chairman

Next meeting is scheduled for December 1st at 1:00 PM at the Creede Town Hall.

Things to be discussed are...

The finished Sampling and Analysis Plan, Report by Mike Wireman about tracer studies, Prospective Purchaser Agreements (the Hecla donation), and more.

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